An Auckland man who was asked if being trans would affect him going to heaven is calling for a boycott of the pharmacy chain he says left him 鈥渇eeling like trash鈥.
Logan Popp is speaking out again after he was targeted by hateful attacks following his stance against Unichem, which he says failed to support him when the store assistant asked the question.
Popp was a regular at Unichem Torbay until a store assistant asked him in April if he was happy with his chest - a question that followed mastectomy surgery he had last December.
鈥淭he next question was, 鈥榃ell, where do you think you鈥檙e gonna go when you die? Are you gonna go to heaven or ... ?鈥
聽鈥淎nd that鈥檚 kind of how she left the question open,鈥 Popp said.
He told the staff member he believed he was going to heaven and had been raised a Catholic, before the assistant asked: 鈥淒o you pray to Mother Mary?鈥
鈥淪he didn鈥檛 necessarily say it, but the questions that she asked and the way that it followed the conversation, I mean, you can put together two and two and take from that conversation that she was basically saying, 鈥楬ey, I know that you鈥檙e trans and you鈥檙e gonna go to hell鈥,鈥 Popp told the聽Herald聽in April.
鈥淚t鈥檚 a huge violation and a huge no-go.鈥
Logan Popp received backlash online after he spoke out.
He says he came forward to protect others from the staff member鈥檚 comments, which he said could be 鈥渁 matter of life and death鈥 to someone in the LGBTQ community struggling with mental health.
The staff member concerned resigned after she was suspended,聽Stuff聽reported, but Popp told the聽贬别谤补濒诲听that he was dissatisfied with what he says was inaction from Unichem.
Edwina Neilson, general manager of marketing for Unichem鈥檚 parent company Green Cross Health, told the聽贬别谤补濒诲听that they were extremely disappointed to let Popp down and said his treatment did not reflect their culture.
鈥淲e expect all our team to treat people with dignity and respect, it is part of our culture, so obviously letting Logan down is extremely disappointing,鈥 Neilson said.
She said an internal investigation process was under way and reinforced that Unichem Pharmacies 鈥漟irmly believe in the values of diversity, equality, and respect for all individuals鈥.
鈥淲e are dedicated to creating an inclusive environment where all customers feel safe and valued,鈥 Neilson told the聽Herald.
Martin Harris from Torbay Unichem told the聽Herald聽in April that he was 鈥渆xtremely disappointed鈥 by his staff member鈥檚 actions and said the culture of the pharmacy was to treat everyone with dignity and respect and admitted that the staff member鈥檚 actions had let Popp down.
鈥淭he crux of the matter is that we let Logan down and we acknowledge that and we鈥檙e trying to work hard to resolve that to a level that will be satisfactory to him and give some confidence to the rest of the community that he鈥檚 part of that they will be safe at Torbay Unichem Pharmacy,鈥 he told the聽Herald.
Harris declined to comment for this story and the聽贬别谤补濒诲听understands that initial complaint is now being dealt with through the Human Rights Commission.
Popp says a personal apology was not made at the time and he was told by Harris that Unichem鈥檚 head office had told him he was on his own in dealing with the issue.
That鈥檚 not good enough, Popp told the聽Herald.
鈥淭hey鈥檝e kind of just made me feel like trash,鈥 he said, calling on the LGBTQ community and all who support them to give Unichem a wide berth.
鈥淲hy support a place that has nothing to say from a really horrible situation?鈥
Tyres slashed, online hate pours in
US-born Popp told the Herald that he had been recognised in public many times since he came forward to highlight his treatment at Unichem Torbay.
What had been a private journey for him was suddenly a lot more public. He says that he 鈥減assed鈥 as male in many situations and the attention he received meant that he had effectively outed himself to the wider community.
He told the Herald that he received support from many in his local East Coast Bays community but online feedback was very different.
Logan Popp was asked if he was going to heaven by a former staff member at Unichem Torbay.
Popp locked down his social media and tried to stay away from hateful online comments, many wrongly claiming he had moved to Aotearoa for publicly funded surgery.
Then he found a cut on one of his car鈥檚 tyres.
Popp thought he had been unlucky and got the tyre replaced but two days later the same tyre was 鈥渟lashed鈥.
None of the neighbours received similar treatment.
Popp said the silence from Unichem and the online abuse reminded him of his time in the US Army.
He served for seven years as a chemical specialist and had to keep his identity to himself, unable to transition or to speak freely about it.
鈥滻 had to kind of hide that part of me still because I have seen how they still treat people that are identifying as transgender and it鈥檚 almost like you鈥檙e not really a soldier.
鈥漇o to have this happen again, you know, it did actually trigger some of those feelings that okay, maybe I should be quiet and just kind of not be so out and proud and you know, open about being a proud trans man.
鈥淪o it really did make me feel like I needed to crawl back into the closet in a way, you know, especially for my safety.鈥
Popp told the Herald he was considering moving to a rural location, to be able to feel more free to be himself.
鈥滻t sucks,鈥 he said. 鈥滻t makes me feel like a caged animal.鈥
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