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'A tragic accident': Neighbour, friend of Lachie Jones' mum says she trusts her version of events

Author
Ben Tomsett,
Publish Date
Thu, 2 May 2024, 2:59pm
Lachlan Jones, 3, was found dead in an oxidation pond in Gore, January 2019. Photo / Supplied
Lachlan Jones, 3, was found dead in an oxidation pond in Gore, January 2019. Photo / Supplied

'A tragic accident': Neighbour, friend of Lachie Jones' mum says she trusts her version of events

Author
Ben Tomsett,
Publish Date
Thu, 2 May 2024, 2:59pm

A neighbour who aided in the immediate search for Lachlan Jones the night of his death has told the inquest what happened to the Gore preschooler was 鈥渁 tragic accident鈥.

A 15-day coroners inquest into the death of 3-year-old Lachie Jones, who was found face-up in an oxidation pond 1.2km from his home on January 19, 2019, has entered its fourth day.

Neighbour Deborah Thurston told the inquest she trusted the mother鈥檚 version of events, and a statement she had previously made to police alleging the mother said 鈥淟achie had done her a favour鈥 was taken out of context.

A strong element of the cross-examination focused on her ability to recall the events of the night Lachie went missing, with Thurston admitting she may be susceptible to suggestion at times.

Lawyer Robin Bates at the Invercargill Courthouse on Thursday during the coronial inquest into Lachie Jones' death, on January 29, 2019. Photo / Southland Times, Stuff
Lawyer Robin Bates at the Invercargill Courthouse on Thursday during the coronial inquest into Lachie Jones' death, on January 29, 2019. Photo / Southland Times, Stuff

Under questioning from police counsel Robin Bates, she said Lachie鈥檚 mother, Michelle Officer, had previously been in a relationship with Thurston鈥檚 ex-husband, and she knew both Officer and Lachie well.

鈥淗e鈥檇 always be around you talking, playing - your attention was quite often on Lachie when you were there,鈥 she told the inquest.

Her own grandchildren were a similar age to Lachie at the time. With Lachie, 鈥測ou鈥檇 sort of have to keep an eye on him鈥.

She recalled occasions when she was with Lachie and her grandchildren, needing to call out to Lachie for him to stop or slow down.

鈥淟achie was the sort of child that, to me, he would still go - even if you said stop.鈥

Thurston told the inquest the day in question had already been a traumatic event for her, as she had just returned from Slope Point, at the Catlins, where a search was under way for a relative who had been swept out to sea while fishing.

The inquest into the death of Lachlan Paul Graham Jones, held by Auckland-based Coroner Alexander Ho, began at the Invercargill Courthouse on Monday. Photo / Southland Times,Stuff
The inquest into the death of Lachlan Paul Graham Jones, held by Auckland-based Coroner Alexander Ho, began at the Invercargill Courthouse on Monday. Photo / Southland Times,Stuff

After returning from Slope Point some time around 7.30pm, she sat down to watch television, but doesn鈥檛 believe she had the chance to begin her episode.

Some time later, Thurston told the inquest she heard Officer telling Lachie to knock on the door and could hear the preschooler with her.

鈥淚 could hear Lachlan moving around in the washhouse area and trying to keep hold of him.鈥

She did not hear him talking, she said.

Thurston told the inquest that the boy鈥檚 mother said she had been chasing Lachie and had to go home to change his nappy, but decided to stop by for a chat.

At no stage did Thurston physically see Lachlan, and she estimated Officer was only present for 鈥渁 minute or two,鈥 she told the inquest.

鈥淭he next thing, [Officer] said 鈥榮**t, he鈥檚 gone again,鈥 and then she left.鈥

Lachlan Jones, 3, was found dead in an oxidation pond in Gore, January 2019. Photo / Supplied
Lachlan Jones, 3, was found dead in an oxidation pond in Gore, January 2019. Photo / Supplied

Officer returned having not found Lachie, and Thurston commenced searching. The pair searched around both properties, yelling his name.

鈥淚 think I recall seeing [Jonathan Scott] in his bed, telling him to get up and look for Lachie. But he said to Michelle, 鈥榟e鈥檒l be playing hide and seek鈥, like it wasn鈥檛 serious.鈥

Two young girls told Thurston they had seen Lachie run in the direction of the river. She told the inquest she told the girls to go inside and get their dad, and asked them to get on their bikes to help with the search.

She looked at the gate to the oxidation ponds, but did not think Lachie had gone over it: 鈥淚 wish I had.鈥

Later that evening, Thurston was present at Officer鈥檚 property when the mum was told police had found Lachie鈥檚 body.

Thurston was questioned about her marijuana use but alleged she had not smoked for some time around the period of Lachie鈥檚 death.

The counsel for Paul Jones, Max Simpkins, questioned Thurston regarding her first statement to police on January 31, 2019.

鈥淲ould you accept there鈥檚 nothing in that statement that you provided to police at that first opportunity that indicates that you could hear Lachie, except for that tapping at the door?鈥 he asked.

鈥淲ell, she didn鈥檛 ask me anything else. I usually take for gospel what people ask me,鈥 she said.

In her second statement, she mentioned mumbling but not scuffling or banging.

Lawyer Max Simpkins at the Invercargill Courthouse on Thursday. Photo / Southland Times, Stuff
Lawyer Max Simpkins at the Invercargill Courthouse on Thursday. Photo / Southland Times, Stuff

She later told counsel to assist the coroner Simon Mount, KC, that her television was on at the time, but she was 99 per cent sure the noises she heard were Lachie.

Mount played the court audio from the call Officer made to police while searching for Lachie, where a voice alleged to be Thurston鈥檚 was heard in the background.

鈥淚 can鈥檛 believe he鈥檚 done this Debbie, he was just in your laundry,鈥 Officer could be heard saying.

The voice believed to be Thurston鈥檚 replied: 鈥淲hat was he doing there in the first place?鈥

Mount asked Thurston if the voice sounded surprised.

Thurston told the inquest this was because she was not sure why he had 鈥渢aken off鈥.

Mount asked if a statement she made to Simpkins, that she took things 鈥榝or gospel鈥, meant her memory may have been altered due to her interactions in the years since.

Thurston accepted it was possible.

Lawyer Simon Mount, KC, at the Invercargill Courthouse on Thursday. Photo / Southland Times, Stuff
Lawyer Simon Mount, KC, at the Invercargill Courthouse on Thursday. Photo / Southland Times, Stuff

Thurston described her friendship with Officer as 鈥渦p and down鈥.

鈥淲e鈥檝e just got that type of friendship. I鈥檓 pretty hard work sometimes when it comes to keeping friends .... I really care about her, as a mum and a person.

鈥淭here have been times when I鈥檓 really frustrated with Michelle, but putting all my issues aside ... On the day, I trust what she was saying and I know what I heard.鈥

Simpkins alleged in a statement Thurston made to police, she had said the day after Lachie鈥檚 death: 鈥淟achie has done me a favour.鈥

Thurston said this was taken out of context, as Officer was frustrated at Paul at the time. She said Officer meant Lachie had foreseen her future with Paul, and she no longer had a connection to him.

Simpkins alleged Thurston had made a statement to police on April 9 this year that she had been thinking about the night Lachie died and remembered, while searching for Lachie, she found a butt of a cannabis cigarette in her garage.

When Officer entered, she 鈥渁sked for a puff鈥, she alleged.

Thurston told Simpkins she later amended this statement, having been confused, and now believed it occurred on a separate night.

He asked if it was possible outside influences may have affected her recollection of events, including what she had heard from Officer and read in the media, as the inquest was the first time she had spoken and given material to authorities and the court about hearing scuffling, banging, and footsteps.

She told the inquest she did not pay attention to the media until the past few days and did not speak with Officer about the events of that evening.

In a police statement, she said she saw three girls that evening, later stating there were two, Simpkins alleged.

鈥淚 never thought this case with Lachie would get to this point, and I never realised it was such an important question to be asked and what I was saying would be said in court ... I was very casual in what I was saying, but when it comes to the death or the drowning of a child, that鈥檚 very different when it comes to three girls who were playing outside their home safely.鈥

Asked if there were two or three girls, Thurston could not remember.

Mount asked Thurston if it was possible what she was remembering was Officer telling her Lachie was in her laundry, not her own recollection.

鈥淎nything is a possibility, but I don鈥檛 think so.鈥

Prompted by Mount, Thurston told the inquest what happened to Lachie was 鈥渁 tragic accident, and that he drowned鈥.

The inquest is ongoing.

Ben Tomsett is a Multimedia Journalist for the New Zealand Herald, based in Dunedin.

This article was originally published on the NZ Herald

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