Purchased a lemon of a vehicle, been kicked out of your flat or had a builder bungle a renovation? There are multiple avenues for people seeking justice and each year nearly 100,000 New Zealanders do just that, pursuing $150 million worth of claims through the civil justice system. But, as Jeremy Wilkinson finds, some people who take this route win - but still don鈥檛 get justice.
鈥淣o assets including vehicles able to be seized. Debtor is unable to pay. Company is a paper company - no real assets.鈥
Those were the notes a court bailiff wrote after attempting to enforce a court order for a $22,000 deposit that was paid to a drone company for work it never did.
Despite multiple wins through the and an order from the district court enforcing the debt, it has been nearly two years since Jeremy Neilson first paid the deposit to 3DImageVu - and he still hasn鈥檛 seen a cent of it.
It鈥檚 not just about the money, he told 九一星空无限, but the principle as well. He鈥檚 also frustrated by a justice system he says re-victimises those who come to it for aid.
鈥淚鈥檝e won every order I鈥檝e sought and still he鈥檚 able to apply for rehearing after rehearing and dodge the bailiffs.
鈥淚t鈥檚 ridiculous to me that this is even possible.鈥
But, what many people don鈥檛 realise is the Disputes Tribunal doesn鈥檛 have the power to enforce the orders it makes and requires a separate order from the to give it any power.
Even then, court bailiffs are limited in what they can legally confiscate from a debtor.
Tribunals and professional disciplinary bodies
There are roughly 45 tribunals in New Zealand and they fall into two main categories.
The first is what is broadly described as consumer or civil tribunals and they deal with small claims involving goods or services - things like the , the and . There鈥檚 even an avenue through the Human Rights Review Tribunal to seek compensation if you鈥檝e been fired from your job for getting pregnant or racially harassed by your flatmate.
The second category is professional disciplinary bodies that deal with breaches of conduct by lawyers, realtors, doctors, teachers, tradies - even vets and jockeys. These tribunals often deal with people who have breached their professional responsibilities but haven鈥檛 necessarily broken the law.
In many cases, these disciplinary tribunals simply relitigate a finding from the criminal courts and impose their own professional punishments like censure or a fine on top of whatever conviction the person has acquired.
Meanwhile, in the civil tribunals, a plaintiff also effectively becomes a prosecutor; a person takes a landlord, car dealer or company to task and tries to get compensation from them.
About 250 members, referees and adjudicators oversee the hearings and are responsible for delivering justice to about 100,000 parties totalling claims valued at $150 million per year.
The tribunal landscape in New Zealand has had various reforms proposed over the last 60 years, with almost none of them adopted.
In November, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith did, however, table a bill before Parliament that would see the damages cap in the Disputes Tribunal increase from $30,000.
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith tabled a bill in November that would see the Disputes Tribunal cap doubled to $60,000. Photo / Mark Mitchell
Raising the cap is estimated to open the door to a further 2000 claimants each year; at the moment they have to lower their claim to fall within the Disputes Tribunal jurisdiction.
But for some, like Neilson, it鈥檚 fixing only half the problem if neither the tribunal nor the court can actually force the company that owes him $22,000 to pay up.
After winning at the Disputes Tribunal, a complainant can pursue collection of their debt through the district court, which has the power to enforce orders made by the courts, tribunals and other authorities.
That is the route Neilson took after winning at the tribunal in 2023. He was able to obtain a warrant for a court bailiff to seize assets from 3DImageVu. Except, that bailiff couldn鈥檛 take anything because on paper the company doesn鈥檛 have any assets.
Cost recovery: An ongoing issue
While there鈥檚 little data to show how much total debt is outstanding across the tribunals, a recent report from the Ministry of Justice identified cost recovery as an ongoing issue.
鈥淓ven when disputants secure an outcome in their favour, enforcing the outcome can prove challenging and may necessitate further dispute resolution,鈥 that report noted.
Another report from the District Courts of New Zealand Rules Committee found the same issue and suggested granting Disputes Tribunal referees limited civil enforcement powers, the ability to certify monetary judgments, and implement an enforcement plan within the decision itself.
鈥淲e recommend that further consideration be given to improving the process for enforcement of Disputes Tribunal orders in the District Court,鈥 the report said, suggesting the courts think about ways to improve the enforcement of tribunal awards.
In 2014, the late Chester Borrows varied the District Courts Amendments Act to make it easier to obtain an attachment order, which allows for deductions to be made from a debtor鈥檚 wages or benefit. That halved the number of court appearances needed from two to one and waived the $250 fee.
Former Whanganui MP Chester Borrows. Photo / Supplied
Other than an attachment order, there are a number of ways the district courts can help a person collect a debt.
An application can be made for a court bailiff to seize property belonging to the debtor; if the debtor is selling land, a person can apply to halt proceedings; or if the debtor is also owed money, a person can apply as a garnishee to have that debt paid directly to them instead.
But as Neilson found out, even with a debt enforcement order to seize the company鈥檚 assets, he still can鈥檛 get his money - partly because 3DImagueVu doesn鈥檛 have any.
Neilson estimates he would have spent up to 80 hours preparing for and attending hearings to try to recoup the money his company is owed, and he describes the process as not exactly user-friendly.
鈥淎fter we won [at the Disputes Tribunal] we then had to get an enforcement order and it鈥檚 not entirely clear what the best path is,鈥 he said.
鈥淭hen there鈥檚 financial assessment hearings and warrants you need to obtain, with each stop costing more money.
鈥淎nd each step could take months, so if you choose the wrong path, then it can really set you back.鈥
In terms of advice for any creditor hoping to use the tribunal to achieve justice, Neilson still thinks it is a cost-effective way to chase the debt.
鈥淚t鈥檚 relatively cheap and straight-forward on the tribunal side of things, but it鈥檚 when it reaches the district court that it gets more complex,鈥 he said.
鈥淎nd there should be an obvious caveat that there鈥檚 nothing the tribunal can do to enforce your order if you win.
鈥淚f they had the power, this whole process could have been wrapped up fairly quickly.鈥
Neilson has just won another hearing at the Disputes Tribunal in November, after 3DImageVu鈥檚 Rowland Harrison applied for one, claiming he didn鈥檛 receive confirmation of a new hearing date.
鈥淚 am not satisfied 3DImageVu should keep any of the deposit. First, the contract is quiet on whether the deposit is refundable. Second, because the contract was cancelled due to a breach by 3DImageVu, it is reasonable to imply a term the deposit is to be refunded,鈥 a tribunal referee noted in the latest judgment.
Harrison maintains, despite the tribunal ruling to the contrary, that the deposit was non-refundable and Neilson had cancelled the contract.
Harrison told 九一星空无限 that following the latest ruling he did in fact, intend to pay up.
鈥淲e take it on the chin and we鈥檒l pay it and move on,鈥 he said.
鈥淣ow the whole process has gone through, we鈥檒l pay.
鈥淭here鈥檚 no intention on our behalf to avoid payment.鈥
End of the rainbow
So what are the options for people who simply can鈥檛 extract money from people who owe them, despite the backing of a tribunal and a court?
Mark Francis, executive general manager of debt collection agency Debt Managers, says it鈥檚 best to speak to a debtor first to find out why they鈥檙e not paying.
鈥淲e know that a lot of 鈥榳on鈥檛 pays' are really 鈥榗an鈥檛 pays' that can鈥檛 articulate that they can鈥檛 pay. So it鈥檚 easier for them to refuse to pay,鈥 he said.
鈥淲e have a lot of shame around talking about debt... so they鈥檇 rather avoid it, than simply say to you, 鈥業 can鈥檛 pay'.鈥
In terms of giving the tribunal more teeth to enforce its own orders, Francis doesn鈥檛 see that as a solution.
鈥淔rom a creditor鈥檚 perspective I can say it鈥檚 probably not as strong as the general public would like.
鈥淏ut we have to ask ourselves, if it were stronger would injustices occur? Arguably we need a system that is neither strong, nor weak.鈥
Francis no longer collects tribunal debts, but said with things like Tenancy Tribunal orders, historically many landlords simply didn鈥檛 get their money back despite having the power of the court behind them.
鈥淲e need a society where people do feel obliged to pay their debts, because most of us do.
鈥淭he people that are not paying are being unfair to those of us that do so. I think the standpoint is, all debt must be paid back, or should be paid back... I guess the caveat is, as long as it causes no further harm.鈥
Francis said repossessing items in New Zealand was much harder than a lot of people thought because a bailiff had to prove ownership.
鈥淎nd do we want a society where TV鈥檚 are being ripped off walls to pay for debt?
鈥淚 don鈥檛.鈥
Mark Francis of Debt Managers. Photo / Supplied
Another creditor, Mark Graham, purchased a pair of ski boots on Facebook Marketplace before accidentally paying that same person an $11,000 invoice meant for someone else.
He鈥檚 spent nearly four years trying to get the money back and has had three wins through the Disputes Tribunal - but still hasn鈥檛 seen a cent of it.
鈥淲e still haven鈥檛 been paid because regardless of the finding, the third party just won鈥檛 pay it,鈥 he told 九一星空无限.
鈥淭hey can send bailiffs round but she doesn鈥檛 have any assets. So there鈥檚 nothing for them to take.鈥
Graham referred the matter to a debt collection agency but wasn鈥檛 optimistic it would yield any results. The woman involved didn鈥檛 disclose whether she had a job so Graham couldn鈥檛 seek an attachment order on her salary.
鈥淚 don鈥檛 hold out much hope of actually getting any money.鈥
More complicated than TV
Otago University law associate professor Bridgette Toy-Cronin told 九一星空无限 that in most cases people who had been ordered to pay were generally law-abiding citizens who did fork out.
鈥淏ut, there鈥檚 always going to be a percentage of cases where that won鈥檛 happen,鈥 she said.
鈥淚n those cases, then litigants can be very surprised that the adjudicators don鈥檛 just do it for them and that鈥檚 a problem of communicating process up front to litigants.鈥
She said it was a problem across the justice sector in terms of explaining to parties how the system works and what to expect.
鈥淚t鈥檚 a lot more complicated than TV dramas make it look. There鈥檚 not that sense that you can go to court and get it sorted in one day鈥 so people can become frustrated when that doesn鈥檛 happen.
鈥淪o there鈥檚 a job to be done to make sure that process is explained to people so they have proper expectations.鈥
Bridgette Toy-Cronin of Otago University. Photo / ODT
She said the upside of the tribunal was a double-edged sword in that not having lawyers involved reduced barriers for people, but if people did take their case to a lawyer first, the first thing they would do is check if the defendant had any finances - and whether there would likely be any money at the end of the case.
鈥淭here would be some effort to find if there鈥檚 money at the end of the rainbow,鈥 she said.
鈥淚f they have no assets, or are in the process of liquidating, then you鈥檇 have to advise the client not to bother. Essentially there鈥檚 no one and nothing to recover against.鈥
In terms of having the court repossess items, Toy-Cronin said it was a 鈥渕essy鈥 process because there were complicated rights about what kinds of assets could be recovered.
鈥淚t鈥檚 not a very easy area of law - lots of different mechanisms depending on what is being claimed and against whom - which is partly why it does have to go through the district court,鈥 she said.
鈥淭here鈥檚 not a clear and easy way to do it essentially.鈥
While that鈥檚 not really what creditors wanted to hear, Toy-Cronin said that fronting the bad news about the likelihood of recovering debt from someone who wouldn鈥檛 or couldn鈥檛 pay would soften the blow, rather than waiting until they鈥檇 gone through the hassle and stress of a tribunal hearing.
鈥淚 think managing people鈥檚 expectations up front is really important because once people are well into a court process and have a judgment in their favour and realise there鈥檚 no money or it鈥檚 going to be very difficult to extract it, then they鈥檙e rightfully going to be very distressed.鈥
In terms of granting more power to the Disputes Tribunal, Toy-Cronin didn鈥檛 see that as a solution.
Instead, she thought it would be better to reform the district court鈥檚 ability to enforce debt rather than attempt to duplicate it at a tribunal level.
Jeremy Wilkinson is an Open Justice reporter based in Manawat奴 covering courts and justice issues with an interest in tribunals. He has been a journalist for nearly a decade and has worked for 九一星空无限 since 2022.
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