The Prime Minister has accused Labour of being 鈥渃onspiratorial鈥 by asking questions about how an email complaint against Andrew Bayly disappeared from their inbox after being read.
Labour leader Chris Hipkins yesterday told media he had written to the Speaker after the complainant鈥檚 email to deputy leader Carmel Sepuloni was read and flagged by a staff member, but then disappeared. Parliament鈥檚 IT department told the political party it had been withdrawn after being marked as spam.
鈥淚 have contacted the Speaker [Gerry Brownlee] because ultimately it draws into question exactly how an email can be received and withdrawn again,鈥 Hipkins said at the time.
Christopher Luxon on Tuesday morning said his office had looked into the issue and claimed Labour was being 鈥渃onspiratorial鈥.
鈥淚 have no idea what they are talking about, we鈥檝e got no reference for that, no understanding of that,鈥 Luxon said.
Hipkins said he was yet to hear back from the Speaker but denied being conspiratorial.
鈥淲e just outlined the facts because we were being asked by media why we hadn鈥檛 shared what we knew. The reason we didn鈥檛 share [the complaint] was because we couldn鈥檛 find it.鈥
Labour leader Chris Hipkins says there are questions to still be answered. Photo / Mark Mitchell
As revealed last Friday, political parties were earlier this month emailed a complaint against Bayly, the Government鈥檚 Small Business Minister, with allegations he swore at, ridiculed and mocked a worker during a business visit.
That included the allegation Bayly told the worker to 鈥渢ake some wine ... and f*** off鈥 and repetitively called the man a 鈥渓oser鈥.
In a statement and in subsequent media interviews, Bayly repeatedly apologised. He said he believed he was acting in a light-hearted manner, but now understood he had offended the worker.
It was alleged Bayly had been drinking prior to the interaction, but the minister has denied being drunk. While Bayly has also said he didn鈥檛 believe he had sworn at the worker, as has also been alleged, the minister hasn鈥檛 gone into detail about his version of events.
Bayly was at an event in Auckland on Tuesday morning, but is expected back at Parliament in the afternoon. He will likely face questions from reporters prior to entering the House at 2pm.
鈥楽till massive questions鈥
Luxon said on Friday that Bayly鈥檚 behaviour was disappointing, and he had been given assurances from the minister that it wouldn鈥檛 happen again. He didn鈥檛 hand down any punishment.
He maintained on Tuesday that he believed Bayly had 鈥済enuinely鈥 acknowledged what he had done wrong and he hadn鈥檛 disputed much of the complaint in conversations with him.
鈥淗e may have argued some of the tone, but it didn鈥檛 really matter frankly. He also acknowledged that. He wasn鈥檛 defending it with me at all.鈥
Luxon confirmed his office had contacted the complainant and offered to discuss the matter with National鈥檚 chief of staff Cameron Burrows, which was in addition to Bayly鈥檚 earlier offer to speak directly with the complainant. Neither offer had been taken up, according to Luxon.
But Hipkins said there was 鈥渟till massive questions鈥 for Luxon about why Bayly didn鈥檛 get a punishment despite the allegations.
鈥淚 think this kind of behaviour clearly deserves some form of sanction, whether it is the removal of a portfolio or removal of portfolios altogether. Simply saying to someone, that wasn鈥檛 very good, isn鈥檛 really a particularly strong signal.鈥
He said apologies appeared 鈥渄isingenuous鈥 if the one apologising said they didn鈥檛 agree with all the facts being put forward by the complainant.
National ministers and MPs believed Bayly had taken responsibility
Simeon Brown said Bayly had apologised and was 鈥渇ull of remorse鈥. Simon Watts said he knew Bayly well but would not comment on his behaviour, saying that was for Bayly to do.
Judith Collins said Bayly was a 鈥渞eally good person鈥.
鈥淗e鈥檚 just horrified that his attempt at humour has so misfired.鈥
She said it was for the PM to deal with 鈥渂ut obviously Andrew is mortified at the result.鈥
Paul Goldsmith said he was surprised by Bayly鈥檚 comments but it was a matter for him and the Prime Minister. Mark Mitchell said he felt Bayly had taken the right approach in apologising.
Labour鈥檚 MPs weren鈥檛 impressed, however.
Rachel Boyack: 鈥淚 just think it is inappropriate to call a worker a loser and to use the L sign and I think there are more questions to be asked in terms of what process he followed afterwards in terms of informing the Prime Minister and why has he not had stronger action taken against him.鈥
Helen White said she 鈥渉ated鈥 when people used the word 鈥渓oser鈥.
鈥淚 think it is very disrespectful ... we are all actually one people, gosh this Government goes on about that a bit, but to treat people as if they are less, it鈥檚 just wrong. It鈥檚 absolutely wrong to do that.鈥
She said workers are 鈥渙ften heroes鈥.
鈥淚 think we just need to remember our supermarket workers in Covid, to remember that you don鈥檛 have to be earning a lot of money to be doing good in this country. Our nurses, are they losers?鈥
Ingrid Leary said Luxon had shown 鈥渨eak leadership鈥 and not up to the standard he had expected of Labour when it was in government. She had been 鈥済utted鈥 for the worker.
Ayesha Verall called it 鈥渢otally inappropriate conduct鈥 and he should be demoted. Kieran McAnulty said the public was 鈥渘ot impressed鈥 and it was 鈥減retty rough鈥 to call someone a loser.
Willie Jackson said it was 鈥減ar for the course for National Party people鈥.
鈥淚t seems like 鈥榖orn to rule鈥 attitude. I am really disappointed with him. No worker deserves to be treated like that.鈥
Jamie Ensor is a political reporter in the NZ Herald Press Gallery team based at Parliament. He was previously a TV reporter and digital producer in the 九一星空无限hub Press Gallery office.
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