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'Love to be more popular': Hipkins says he has 'full support' of caucus after poor poll

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Jamie Ensor,
Publish Date
Tue, 17 Sep 2024, 1:43pm

'Love to be more popular': Hipkins says he has 'full support' of caucus after poor poll

Author
Jamie Ensor,
Publish Date
Tue, 17 Sep 2024, 1:43pm

Chris Hipkins believes he has the backing of the Labour Party caucus as he prepares to jet off to the United Kingdom, just as a new poll lands showing his personal favourability is plummeting.

It comes after the latest Taxpayer Union-Curia Poll showed that while Labour was up 0.8 points to 26.7% 鈥 still well below National on 39% and around the 26.9% Labour got at last year鈥檚 election 鈥 Hipkins鈥 own popularity has taken a drubbing.

In the Preferred Prime Minister poll, Hipkins has fallen 6.1 points to 12.6%. In comparison, National鈥檚 Christopher Luxon fell 1.8 points to 32.7%.

Hipkins鈥 net favourability has seen an even steeper drop. It fell 16 points to -10%, while Luxon鈥檚 rose 1 point to +7%. Just 31% of the poll鈥檚 respondents said they had a positive view of the Labour leader, compared to 41% for Luxon, while 41% said they had an unfavourable view of Hipkins, compared to 34% for Luxon.

Asked about the results, Hipkins said he had had a 鈥渓ower profile鈥 this year following Labour鈥檚 defeat at the 2023 election, which also saw him lose his role as Prime Minister.

鈥淲e knew that the first 18 months of being in Opposition was going to be the most difficult to keep our profile up and to keep our numbers up. We鈥檙e not polling below where we were polling on election day.鈥

Hipkins said it was just one poll and more negative than others. He said he had the 鈥渇ull support鈥 of his caucus.

鈥淥verall, our goal is to build our support up as we head towards the next election. We will keep working away at it. It shows we have got work to do.鈥

He also said he didn鈥檛 believe people changed their minds about who to vote for within just a year of an election.

Labour Party leader Chris Hipkins. Photo / Mark Mitchell
Labour Party leader Chris Hipkins. Photo / Mark Mitchell

The polling by Curia took place after Hipkins participated in a number of high-profile interviews where he was questioned about Labour鈥檚 approach to tax. He has been open about the party debating the merits of the likes of a capital gains tax and a wealth tax.

But Hipkins said, as 鈥渟omeone who does follow polling鈥, that 鈥渆vents in the last week bear no resemblance to what happens in polls鈥.

鈥淚t鈥檚 a long game we play here in politics... I鈥檇 love to be more popular, but at the end of the day I want to win the next election.鈥

Hipkins said people weren鈥檛 鈥渞egistering much of what the Opposition in politics are saying at the moment鈥.

He wouldn鈥檛 provide a specific Preferred Prime Minister figure that would trigger his resignation, saying that was a 鈥渉ypothetical鈥.

Hipkins will this week travel to the UK to attend the local Labour Party conference there and also to meet with members of the new British Labour Government. It will provide the Labour leader with an opportunity to discuss policy options, with Hipkins having a particular interest in artificial intelligence (AI) and renewable energy.

Last year, when Hipkins was in the UK for the coronation of King Charles, one of his ministers defected out of the blue without even ringing him to explain.

But none of the Labour MPs the Herald spoke with on Tuesday expressed anything but support for Hipkins.

Kieran McAnulty is one of the Labour MPs often talked about as a potential future contender for the leadership, despite saying he has no desire for it.

McAnulty said he backed Hipkins 鈥100%鈥 and was the 鈥渞ight person to lead us into 2026鈥.

鈥淗e will. We back him to do that. We are getting behind him to win the next election and this poll doesn鈥檛 change that.鈥

McAnulty said Labour backed Hipkins 鈥渨hether he is here or visiting [British Prime Minister Sir] Keir Starmer.鈥

鈥淲e will back him now. We back him when he comes back.鈥

David Parker, who stood down as Revenue Minister after Hipkins killed off his wealth tax proposal, wouldn鈥檛 stop to talk about Hipkins鈥 poll results.

鈥淲e don鈥檛 pay much attention to those polls,鈥 Parker said as he continued walking down the Labour caucus corridor.

Asked if there would be any manoeuvring while Hipkins was overseas, Parker, still walking, said: 鈥淣o鈥.

He gave the same answer when asked if he would be holding any tax meetings next week when Hipkins is away. Parker has been speaking about tax, despite not being the party鈥檚 revenue spokesman 鈥 though Hipkins hasn鈥檛 shown any discomfort with that.

Labour education spokeswoman Jan Tinetti said it was early to be speaking about polls.

鈥淐hris is doing a fantastic job. I am right behind Chris and everything he is doing,鈥 Tinetti said.

鈥淵ou鈥檝e got to know our caucus at the moment is as tight as I have ever known our caucus to be. It is a great place to be. We are just working to make certain that we are working towards getting back into government again.鈥

Senior Labour figure Willie Jackson said Hipkins was 鈥済oing great guns鈥 and then began to speak about the party鈥檚 internal polling, before catching himself.

鈥淚t might be time we have a talk about our internals, because our internals have been consistent in terms of, can鈥檛 say too much because Chippy is quite, he strategises around this, but our internals tells us we are there or thereabouts.

鈥淲e haven鈥檛 dropped down to 24 or 25% anyway.鈥

Jackson was critical of the poll, as was Labour health spokeswoman Ayesha Verrall, who called it 鈥渏unk data鈥 after Curia chose to leave a polling industry group.

Curia Market Research has recently resigned from the Research Association of New Zealand, the peak body and effective regulator of polling companies in New Zealand. However, Curia still abides by the association鈥檚 polling code, which sets out best practice for political polling.

It polled a random sample of 1000 adult New Zealanders and is weighted to the overall adult population. It was conducted by phone (landlines and mobile) and online between Monday September 8 and Wednesday September 10 and has a maximum margin of error of +/- 3.1%. 3.4% were undecided on the party vote question.

Jamie Ensor is a political reporter in the NZ Herald Press Gallery team based at Parliament. He was previously a TV reporter and digital producer in the 九一星空无限hub Press Gallery office.

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