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'Particularly toxic': Erasmus on his relationship with former ABs coach

Author
Neil Reid,
Publish Date
Wed, 13 Dec 2023, 9:01am
Ex-Springbok player and World Cup-winning coach Rassie Erasmus has got stuck into previous NZ Rugby top-brass and former All Black coach Laurie Mains in his new autobiography. Photo / photosport.co.nz
Ex-Springbok player and World Cup-winning coach Rassie Erasmus has got stuck into previous NZ Rugby top-brass and former All Black coach Laurie Mains in his new autobiography. Photo / photosport.co.nz

'Particularly toxic': Erasmus on his relationship with former ABs coach

Author
Neil Reid,
Publish Date
Wed, 13 Dec 2023, 9:01am

Rassie Erasmus makes a series of revelations in his new book,听Rassie: Stories of Life and Rugby,听including:

-How then-New Zealand Rugby boss Steve Tew rallied against proposed Twenty20-like lucrative rugby competition

-His bitter battle with coach and former All Black Laurie Mains听鈥 and how he worked to get the coach removed

-He claims Mains fell asleep during meetings while coaching the Cats, warned players about opposition players who weren鈥檛 even selected

-Why Erasmus knew the All Blacks would lose the 1999 third-place Rugby World Cup against Springboks

Outspoken World Cup-winning Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus听has听opened up听about his ill-fated hybrid rugby revolution 鈥 a plot scuttled after New Zealand Rugby bosses thought he was trying to poach All Blacks stars Daniel Carter and Richie McCaw to play Super Rugby in South Africa.听听

In his newly-released autobiography 鈥撎Rassie: Stories of Life and Rugby听鈥 claims the听radical concept which was inspired by Twenty20 cricket was eventually killed off听amid protests led by then NZR chief executive Steve Tew.听

The rugby hybrid 鈥 created by Erasmus, his lawyer and business partner Frikkie Erasmus, and former Springbok coach Andre听Markgraaff听-听would feature games lasting only 20 minutes a half, and with just a two-minute halftime break.听

Taking a leaf out of cricket鈥檚 Indian Premier League, franchises would clash over a two-week tournament in January. Game nights would see three matches played in quick succession.

Rassie Erasmus, with Siya Kolisi, had a plan to revolutionise rugby in 2010. Photo / photosport.co.nzRassie Erasmus, with Siya听Kolisi, had a plan to revolutionise rugby in 2010. Photo / photosport.co.nz

鈥淚n just over two hours, fans could watch some of the world鈥檚 top players in action,鈥 Erasmus writes in听Rassie.

鈥淲e saw it as part of preseason training and commissioned sports scientists to check if it would be too taxing for the players.

鈥淲e planned a televised event in London to auction the players and coaches and obtained commitments from big-name sponsors and broadcasters.鈥

Erasmus 鈥 who played 36 tests for the Springboks between 1997-2001, before coaching the side to their 2019 Rugby World Cup triumph and then being one of the masterminds behind this year鈥檚 cup triumph 鈥 revealed the group had contacted 鈥渕ore than 100 top international players鈥 to take part in the event.

It was planned to have eight privately owned franchises competing for a听substantial听financial prize.

Among the New Zealanders the trio tried to head-hunt in early 2010 were then All Blacks stars Carter and McCaw.

All Black greats Richie McCaw and Daniel Carter were among high profile players Rassie Erasmus wanted to sign. Photo / Brett PhibbsAll Black greats Richie McCaw and Daniel Carter were among high profile players Rassie Erasmus wanted to sign. Photo / Brett Phibbs

In听Rassie, Erasmus painfully reveals how the plan fell apart after the approach to the legendary duo.

鈥淲hile we were talking to players from the Crusaders, including Richie McCaw and Dan Carter, after a Super Rugby match against the Stormers in Cape Town, we were spotted by the Crusaders coaching staff, who thought we were trying to sign their players to join the Stormers,鈥 Erasmus wrote.

鈥淭hey immediately reported the incident to New Zealand Rugby CEO Steve Tew, and he sent a formal complaint to the then-president of SA Rugby听Regan Hoskins.鈥

Hoskins was听well aware听of the plan, having been previously fully briefed by the trio.

Frikkie Erasmus and former South Africa Rugby chair Dr Jan Marais were dispatched to a meeting in Sydney in a bid to calm Tew, New Zealand Rugby and fellow Sanzar partners Australia.

The pair were also asked to explain the 鈥渇inancial benefits鈥 the planned rugby revolution could offer.

鈥淯nfortunately, they weren鈥檛 in favour of the competition and made it clear they wouldn鈥檛 allow their players to take part,鈥 Erasmus wrote.

Steve Tew was not impressed by the proposed lucrative rugby tournament that was proposed by Rassie Erasmus. Photo / photosport.co.nzSteve Tew was not impressed by the proposed lucrative rugby tournament that was proposed by Rassie Erasmus. Photo / photosport.co.nz

鈥淏ut because of the money they would receive, the players remained committed, so we said we would continue with our plans.

鈥淭ew then complained to the International Rugby听Board听and we听subsequently听received a letter from the IRB听notifying us听that any player or coach who took part in the competition would be permanently banned from playing rugby.

鈥淭hat brought an abrupt end to our idea.鈥

Turning off the Mains 鈥 how Laurie Mains鈥 era at the Cats ended in controversy

Former All Blacks fullback and coach Laurie Mains might have found love in South Africa, via his second wife Annemarie.

But in reading听Rassie,听it is clear that there听wasn鈥檛听a lot of love left between him and the players听he coached at the South African Super Rugby franchise the Cats when he听departed听the side in 2001.

At the head of the list of Cats players who were happy to see him go was Erasmus. And in his book, he says the best thing from Mains鈥 legacy of coaching him was teaching him how not to听operate.

Former All Black fullback Laurie Mains was also All Blacks coach between 1992-95. Photo / photosport.co.nzFormer All Black fullback Laurie Mains was also All Blacks coach between 1992-95. Photo / photosport.co.nz

Mains arrived at the team for the 2000 season, with Erasmus describing him as 鈥渁 former All Black fullback, who coached New Zealand for the 1995 Rugby World Cup and听claimed his team had been poisoned before the final by a local waitress鈥.

While he turned around their fortunes quickly 鈥 going from near the bottom of the table to听semifinalists听鈥 things 鈥渄eteriorated fast鈥 between captain and coach in 2001.

鈥淭his was at a time when SARFU started introducing quotas to bring more black players into the game and, even though Laurie鈥檚 wife was South African, I felt he didn鈥檛 properly understand South Africa and its people,鈥 Erasmus writes in听Rassie.

鈥淗e听didn鈥檛听appreciate the political sensitivities in South Africa, the inequalities people face, and what transformation meant.

He was stubborn听and听blundered when he tried to make quotas work.鈥

Quotas were put in place to听encourage the听selection听of black and coloured players.

Laurie Mains has not been fondly remembered by Rassie Erasmus for his time coaching the Cats. Photo / www.photosport.co.nzLaurie Mains has not been fondly remembered by Rassie Erasmus for his time coaching the Cats. Photo /听www.photosport.co.nz

Erasmus claimed that included asking Springbok back Conrad听Jantjes听鈥撎齞eemed听a quota player 鈥 to fake an injury so he could be replaced by Dean Hall - a non-quota player who he favoured - during a match.

鈥淚 was听very angry听because听I felt this听was a huge embarrassment for Conrad, and unfair on Dean.

鈥淚 said to Laurie, 鈥楧on鈥檛 do this 鈥 let鈥檚 make another plan, but don鈥檛 make a person fake an injury鈥.

鈥淵ou听can鈥檛听build a team and get the players to believe in each other when this is going on.

鈥淏ut because my credibility听wasn鈥檛听great, Laurie听didn鈥檛听take me seriously. I started behaving badly and was becoming more听self-centered.鈥

Erasmus said his relationship 鈥 and that of some of his team-mates 鈥 became so bad that he and Springbok World Cup-winning wing Chester Williams went to prominent South African rugby official, and Cats supremo, 鈥楧oc鈥 Louis听Lyut听and 鈥渢old him we couldn鈥檛 play under Laurie鈥.

Rassie Erasmus - during his team talk ahead of the 2019 Rugby World Cup final - says he learnt things not to do as a coach from Laurie Mains. Photo / YouTube/SuperSportRassie Erasmus - during his team talk ahead of the 2019 Rugby World Cup final - says he learnt things not to do as a coach from Laurie Mains. Photo / YouTube/SuperSport

鈥淒oc listened to us and started to work Laurie out of the job.

鈥淚 felt Laurie鈥檚 coaching methods听were outdated as he听didn鈥檛听do a proper analysis on his own players and the opposition.

鈥淗e preferred the old-school way of coaching. I was doing a lot of technical analysis for the team, and Laurie would fall asleep while I was going through the stats on my computer. He听didn鈥檛听care to learn the modern approach to coaching.

Our relationship became particularly toxic on our trip to New Zealand and Australia. Despite the problems, I was playing good rugby [I was later named SANZAR鈥檚 Players鈥 Player of the Year], and we beat the Blues and the Crusaders, who are always tough to beat at home.

鈥淟aurie told us the danger men in the Blues were Matua Parkinson and Carlos Spencer. But because he听didn鈥檛听believe in studying the opposition properly, he听didn鈥檛听know that neither of them听were听playing.鈥

Ill and battling with a stomach bug, Erasmus said he asked Mains to be replaced at halftime in the clash against the Blues.

Mains rejected the request from his captain.

鈥淎fter the match, I didn鈥檛 hang around for the post-match function and took a taxi back to the hotel,鈥 Erasmus wrote in听Rassie.

He added things later 鈥渂lew up鈥 when the Cats travelled to Brisbane ahead of a clash against the Reds.

The pair got into a 鈥渂lazing row鈥 which was听witnessed听by some of Erasmus鈥 teammates.

Erasmus wrote Mains 鈥渁ccused me of being disruptive and unstable鈥.

The 鈥渇inal straw鈥 was when he claimed Mains told him he 鈥渘eeded counselling for depression鈥.

Rassie Erasmus writes Laurie Mains warned his Cats team to beware of Carlos Spencer - even though the star first-five was not going to be playing against his team. Photo / PhotosportRassie Erasmus writes Laurie Mains warned his Cats team to beware of Carlos Spencer - even though the star first-five was not going to be playing against his team. Photo /听Photosport

Erasmus quit the tour, faking an听injury听and flying home.

鈥淟ooking back, that听was the wrong decision. As captain, I should have had it out with Laurie and resolved the problem.鈥

He added that what he experienced in Mains鈥 final season as Cats coach had听later helped shape his coaching style, in terms of how not to go about things.

鈥淚 learnt from the mistakes both of us made. I听won鈥檛听have players who behave as badly as I did, feeling entitled just because they are playing well.

鈥淗ow Laurie coached and analysed is exactly how I听don鈥檛听want to be as a coach.

鈥淏ut more importantly, I learnt to have proper communication with the players, to address grievances properly and not allow ill feelings to fester and affect the whole team.鈥

How the All Blacks looked beaten before Rugby World Cup showdown

In听Rassie, Erasmus also听opens up听about his playing and coaching triumphs and losses while facing the All Blacks.

That includes the 22-18 win over the then John Hart-coached All Blacks in the playoff for third and fourth at the 1999 Rugby World Cup at Cardiff鈥檚 Millennium Stadium.

It proved to be a听bitter tournament ending for the All Blacks听after they had travelled to the UK as favourites to win the Webb Ellis Cup.

Erasmus writes in听Rassie听鈥 which is published by Macmillan 鈥 that he felt the All Blacks were beaten in the match before referee Peter Marshall signalled for play to start.

Coach John Hart watches glumly as France defeat the All Blacks in the 1999 Rugby World Cup semifinal. A week later the side lost to the Springboks. Coach John Hart watches glumly as France defeat the All Blacks in the 1999 Rugby World Cup semifinal. A week later the side lost to the Springboks.

鈥淭he only thing that stood out for me there, apart from winning, was that I鈥檇 never faced a haka in which the All Blacks looked so unmotivated,鈥 he wrote.听

鈥淚 remember looking at their captain, Taine Randell,听and seeing how, mentally, he听wasn鈥檛听in the game.

鈥淚 have faced the听All Black听haka five times in my career, and that was the only time I looked at them and thought, 鈥楩***, they are not up for this game鈥.鈥

Neil Reid is a Napier-based senior reporter who covers general news,听features听and sport. He joined the Herald in 2014 and has 30 years of newsroom experience.

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